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Party XP - Is it broken?

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  • Party XP - Is it broken?

    PGJared Echo EggToken

    Let's talk party XP bonus now. I would like to know exactly what parameters influence how much XP I am supposed to get so I can see if mine is broken. I did some test flights. All flights were done on the exact same base.

    Test Account #1:
    Account Level: 242
    Dragons Flown: Rizar (non-expert), Apophet (non-expert), Hauheset (expert), Frostbiter (expert), Deci (non-expert)
    Backer Level: 132
    Max XP: 129.75k
    Base Bonus XP Seen: 4.4k (Deci, Frost, Hauheset) - 3.8k (Apophet, Rizar) || These all multiplied exactly by daily multis too.

    Test Account #2:
    Account Level: 132
    Dragons Flown: Sekhem (non-expert), Rizar (non-expert), Whale (expert), Consurgens (non-expert)
    Backer Level: 242
    Max XP: 33.4k
    Base Bonus XP Seen: 1k (Sekhem, Rizar, Whalegnawer, Consurgens)


    I have friends getting significantly different outputs. So please, PG, tell me what the parameters are so I can figure out why mine is broken. Thanks.
    Last edited by TheRedDelilah; 06-16-2017, 04:21 PM.
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  • #2
    Just be happy you can follow other players lol. Every time I follow any iOS player either me or the original person disconnect.

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    • #3
      Weird. I ran my xp and here are some data for you

      Im lv202. Max xp is 142.51k
      run xp base lv3xx

      Run with gorgonus lv8, using 100% xp boost
      142k plus x4 multipliers
      748k party bonus
      142k xp boost
      534k elite bonus
      Got the same bonus with either expert nightshade or lv23 or any other dragons backing me (backers are from 130-300)

      When I back others, using lv33 hauheset (expert legendary wisdom rune)
      118k base (75% of my max, which is correct)
      124k party bonus.

      when I back others on regular bases (from lv150-190), xp range is around 40-60k. I got almost the same amount for party bonus

      so I got roughly around 100% extra from party bonus


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      • TheRedDelilah
        TheRedDelilah commented
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        😩 I have friends getting what you are too. Why can't be I have it 😞

      • Dakhunter
        Dakhunter commented
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        No one on my team told me they got pity party bonus.
        Same guy at my level got 2.3M xp with the first x5 multiplier.
        We definitely need some clarification from PG
        PGJared. Echo please enlighten us

    • #4
      It would seem that number of allies joining doesn't actually matter either.

      But to add to the screwiness:

      Different account - L49, 3403 base XP, all dragons with x3 multi
      Enki (Orange) = 8.17k ally bonus
      Tarand (Orange) = 8.17k ally bonus (only had one ally vs two above)
      Sage (Green) = 5.1k ally bonys

      L106
      Plat/Gold are sub 5k ally bonus regardless of muti.
      [ITIL isn't my IGN]
      XP Calculator, Days to Level, XP Lookup, Evo Stone Level Lookup

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      • #5
        Any "official" word on party bonus ins and outs?

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        • ITIL
          ITIL commented
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          None yet -.-

      • #6
        Account Level: 236
        Dragons Flown: Algor (45) // Drakius 36 // Aquileas 10 // Apophet 8 // Morphos 45
        Backer Level: 278
        Max XP: 129.75k
        Base Bonus XP Seen: Ranged between 2.8k-6.9k

        Now for the odd one

        Borgian - lvl 12 - 412k with 5x, 350k with 4x, 274k with 3x


        Borgian is my only non sapphire / garnet league dragon, with my highest bred beeing Garnet Mythics.

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        • Dakhunter
          Dakhunter commented
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          very strange. I hit my xp base (listed on the comment above) and I got awesome party bonus.
          We definitely need some answer from PG

        • ITIL
          ITIL commented
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          L12, if it follows earlier seasonal divines, would be gold tier, so it'd be put under the "catch up" bonus (three tiers or more behind where you are), pretty much, with how it seems to be working for some.

      • #7
        TheRedDelilah

        http://wardragons.pocketgems.com/for...ing-hypothesis

        After extensive testing with the Party Bonus, I have come to the working hypothesis in that post. There has only been one exception to the rule, One of our players shows lower total AP than he actually has, he seems to be the only one that doesn't seem to be affected by the tier of the dragon he uses. The Tier rule, of having to be 3 Tiers lower than your current tier based on either their level or Total AP value, holds true for everyone else.

        My level is 114, and my Total AP via the info screen is 9.1 mil before boosts, currently a dragon has to be Green Tier or lower in order for me to get the High Bonus, Gold and above, all receive the low bonus, regardless of their AP or level.

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        • Spooky
          Spooky commented
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          Sorry if unclear--the party bonus I get is 15x what Red is getting as detailed in the OP. She gets 4.4k base, I get closer to 70k. This gets scaled by multis and XP consumables.

          Dakhunter

        • Dakhunter
          Dakhunter commented
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          I got it now. So I still have no idea how this works then. I have max 142.51k plus around 150k for party bonus

        • PodunkPrincess
          PodunkPrincess commented
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          I'm a lvl 64 using gold epics to back a fellow team mate at lvls 200+ and only getting +129 Party Bonus...???

      • #8
        I still can't figure out the pattern but in this example I got 910k party bonus. This is when multiplier is still 5x. But using different dragon i got only 20k party bonus even with 5x multiplier.
        Attached Files
        Last edited by XDragonizer; 06-18-2017, 12:06 PM. Reason: uploaded image is not working

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        • ITIL
          ITIL commented
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          Try it again but uncheck "Retrieve remote file and reference locally"

        • XDragonizer
          XDragonizer commented
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          ITIL I don't see that option. I may have to upload it somewhere else and just put the link here.

      • #9
        There is something wrong with party bonus calculations.

        Normally the party bonus has been close to the total xp gained on an attack.
        i have had three runs now where the bonus is way too low.
        Just ran Bander on a high level base, with xp multiplier, but party bonus below 2k xp.

        anyone any ideas?

        (it won't let me upload image)

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        • #10
          Yep, they nerfed it. Why this wasn't tested before release? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          • #11
            EggToken - I want to know the formula. What SHOULD we be seeing.
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            Dragon's, etc.

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            • Lx460
              Lx460 commented
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              It's obvious they don't even know. Somebody put a decimal in the wrong spot, it was never tested and then deployed live. Now they've peeled it back.

              Why is the formula for calculations such a secret? It makes no sense.

            • ITIL
              ITIL commented
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              No strategy allowed in a "strategy" game.

          • #12
            You'd think by now they would realize that people really, really dislike when they give the players something, then pull the tablecloth out from under them.

            I cant say I'm surprised. It's been a tactic used for the last 2 years. Remember Darja?

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            • defpolak
              defpolak commented
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              I don't think any player that was getting the "huge" party bonus really expected it to last. I know I didn't. I even sent an email to the team and a couple LINE groups to get it while it was here because it won't be long before they fix it.

              I bet they did see a nice spike in 200% xp boosts though 😂

          • #13
            Calculations like 25% increase in drop quantities like sigil chests? PG can't even do math right I'd be scared to look at their code work.

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            • #14
              This is exactly why I'm having difficulty finding the motivation to continue the podcast..

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              • #15
                Great... Now Pg again messed up something that is in favor of the players

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